Thursday, February 23rd, 2012
I filmed this video on the ford championship at doral's blue monster,cool right???
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hehe, i don´t think we need the swing, we need is that tempo!!! 300 yards on the fairway with that tempo it´s awesome!!
thats the kind of swing i wish i had
such a great swing ;D
Hitters can hit the ball quite effectively from their knees, disproving a coil is essential. It is essential for a swing, but not for hitting. Few golf instructors really understand hitting. Only a few teachers teach hitting.
Moe actually did use the ground but not like most swingers do. Moe slung the momentum by braking the lower body. Not breaking. Braking. Or Bracing .Few on the planet understand what I’m talking about. Moe was no genius.
It’s very doable.
There is always a certain amount of coil and release from the ground up; it’s more pronounced and more apparent in some, but I don’t think it’s possible for it to be entirely absent. However, I would agree that a guy like Moe makes no particular effort to coil or release ground-up.
Lots of wisdom in the rest of the post.
You’re right about Els in his 20s, for sure. Plane was a little better, and he didn’t have that little bounce move at the top where he opens the angle at the change of direction. Still, he hits it plenty well enough to win–but boy, has he looked completely lost on the greens for about three or four years, after having been a great putter before. Seems to be getting better these days, if a little bit in fits and starts.
To your points: No, Moe Norman and several other models don’t coil and don’t release from the ground up. Jone’s swing was great in his day, but has way too much complexity and angles for my liking. Nicklaus’s swing was great and is an entirely valid model, different than Hogan’s in the backswing, similar in the downswing although Hogan had better angles. Not all swings work using the same motor. Most golf instructors teach traditional from the ground up swings; an incomplete picture.
i agree, i don´t think ernie els has even a beautiful swing, i think he and luke donald just has the most beautiful tempo on the tour…
FWIW, there has never been an era when the guy generally tabbed as having the “best swing”–where “best” means “most beautiful”–is actually the best player, with the possible exception of Snead in some years. Think about it–Nelson, Hogan, Palmer, Nicklaus, Watson, Woods, and even those between Watson and Woods like Faldo, Price, and Norman. Effective, beautiful in their effectiveness–but the consensus “beautiful” swings belonged to guys like Littler, Pate, Purtzer, Elkington, etc.
I’m just saying, every great swing includes arm swing, hand-and-forearm release, coil, release from the ground up, a relatively steady head (I’ll leave Hagen out of it), etc. Hogan articulated it particularly well.
I will say this, though, as support for what you’re saying: Nicklaus was a great admirer of Jones, as I’m sure you know, and wanted to pattern his amateur career after him. But specifically re swing technique, he said he wanted to do it “Hogan’s way.” Didn’t do too badly.
Rather, I believe Mr. Hogan found the pure combination of golf swing elements. Hogan believed in purity and he found it. Not many know what he really did. If they did, they would understand it’s a universal solution – although not the only one.
True, many factors. I really do think the Tiger thing matters, too, with a lot of these guys. Ernie, Phil, even a late-career Greg Norman, guys like that all thought the #1 spot was doable until TW came along. Once that doesn’t seem doable, you have all the money you’re ever going to need, you’ve already proven yourself to anybody who has eyes to see and ears to hear, and you’re not going to change the minds of your detractors, I can see where it’d be hard to get as motivated as you used to.
…to the degree that what “swing gurus are after” actually matters.
When I was teaching, I’d try to remind people that 1) there are many more similarities than differences; and 2) Hogan’s technique per Five Lessons (the typical reference point for the “gurus”) was both tailored to his specific problem (the low hook, not the typical problem for amateurs) and specifically designed as a “constructed” thing for a guy who didn’t have the across-the-board athletic ability of a guy like Snead.
Ernie had better technique in his twenties . Problem with him now is that I think he cannot do what he used to because of age . I think he needs to get really fit and work hard on his flexibilty as being a big man this really is going to become a big issue with him soon if not already , once sportsman get past the age of 30 it is a battle to stay at a certain level …as far as I can see he has had poor coaching (DL) , no fitness (he got fat), he had an injury & his child is sick..not great.
agree totally, but I don’t mind Rory McIiroy. Two different swings but they both look awesome.
Most of the swing gurus are after Hogan’s swing fundamentals, not El’s, although of course there is overlap.
very best swing in golf history..that’s all
Kind of hard to argue that anybody’s swing is more effective than Tiger’s, actually–the key word being “effective.” I happen to think it’s got a beauty of its own, sort of like Nicklaus’s or Hogan’s swing (as compared with Snead, Littler, et al.). Els has great tempo and is lovely to watch, but honestly, his mechanics were (I think) better when he was in his mid-20s.
Yeah haha,in my opinion, Els and Luke donald´s tempos are the best in the tour, but that´s it…
lmao at anyone arguing that ernie’s swing is more effective than tiger’s.
slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Hes huge though. He used to be a forward.
els is a beast he makes it look so easy to hit it that far
Ogilvy got a really nice touch and tempo, but i think Els’ is still slightly better, especially on the technical side. Ogilvy’s swing has quite some compensations it’s not that textbook.
Totally agree.